Fathers and Finances: 3 Important Money Lessons to Talk About With Your Kids or Grandkids

Key Takeaways A portfolio designed for accumulation may carry too much risk, or the wrong kind of risk, once you stop contributing. When two spouses are at different financial life stages, their investment strategies should reflect that difference. A Roth conversion strategy during the years before required minimum distributions begin can meaningfully reduce your long-term tax burden. Rob spent 30 years building a picture-perfect financial foundation for his retirement. He maxed out his 401(k) and stayed disciplined through market downturns. By the time he retired from a long career in plant management and HR, he had a nest egg most people only dream about. But then retirement arrived, and with it came a new kind of anxiety. Rob spent all those years learning how to build wealth, but never how to draw it down. The accumulation phase was clear, but the decumulation phase is far more complex and far more personal. Rob had hired a financial advisor when he retired, hoping for guidance through that transition. Instead, he got portfolio management and investment decisions without the broader planning context he needed. That relationship didn’t last a year. And that’s when he and his wife Christie, came to Five Pine. The Numbers Behind the Plan: When They Started Today Rob’s age 57 63 Investable assets $1.1 million $2.5 million Net worth — $3.5 million Primary challenge No decumulation plan, Comprehensive plan in place heavy pre-tax exposure Key strategies Portfolio redesign, Ongoing tax planning, Roth conversion planning rebalancing When Saving Well Isn't Enough When we first met Rob and Christie, a few things stood out right away. Rob was recently retired with $1.1 million in investable assets (the vast majority of it in pre-tax retirement accounts). Christie, about ten years younger than Rob, was still working and earning a high income as a part-owner of a small business. They were a dual-financial-life household: one person winding down, one still in full accumulation mode. Rob’s most pressing concern was straightforward to state but harder to solve: how much could he spend without putting their retirement at risk? He wanted to travel, renovate the house, and buy a new vehicle without second-guessing himself. But after those decades of saving, spending felt foreign, even a little reckless. He had seriously considered going back to work, not because he needed to, but because he felt he couldn’t trust the numbers. Underneath that, a long-term tax problem was simmering. With most of their savings in pre-tax accounts, Rob and Christie were looking at significant required minimum distributions (RMDs) starting at age 73. And Christie, likely to outlive Rob by a meaningful margin, would eventually face those distributions as a single filer at higher tax rates. They weren’t in trouble, but without a plan, they were heading toward unnecessary complexity and tax liability. A Plan Built for Retirement, Not for Accumulation We started with the full financial picture. Before we touched the portfolio, we built a comprehensive financial plan and stress-tested it against different market scenarios, spending levels, and timelines. Once Rob saw the projections running out over a 30-year horizon, his hesitation about retirement began to lift. The plan gave him the number he needed and, more importantly, the confidence to trust it. From there, we redesigned the portfolio to match Rob’s phase of life. He had come from a Dave Ramsey background and had always preferred an all-equity approach: aggressive, growth-focused, and straightforward. That served him well during the accumulation years, when he contributed every month and had decades to recover from downturns. But in retirement and drawing from the portfolio regularly, it introduced more risk than his situation warranted. We restructured his holdings to roughly 60% equities, 25% fixed income, and 15% in alternative investments, specifically private credit funds and private real estate. The alternatives were a meaningful addition. They could potentially carry lower price fluctuation than publicly-traded assets and have the ability to generate distributions, which may potentially help support spending needs without forcing untimely equity sales. Christie's accounts, meanwhile, stayed aggressive. She's still contributing through her employer plan, still has years of earning ahead of her, and has time to weather market swings. Finally, we put a Roth conversion strategy in place for the years ahead. Timed to begin when Christie retires, the strategy takes advantage of a window when their income will likely be lower, but before RMDs kick in and before Christie potentially files as a single filer at higher tax rates. Converting pre-tax dollars gradually reduces the accounts that will eventually be subject to mandatory distributions, potentially saving hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes over time. From Hesitation to Confidence Rob came to us considering whether he needed to keep working. He left with a plan that showed him that he didn't. Once the plan was in place, Rob and Christie started making the most of their years together, international sailing trips, travel they had put off, and experiences they had earned. A health scare along the way reinforced what the plan had already made clear: the goal is to fund a life worth living while you're healthy enough to live it. On the investment side, market volatility became an opportunity rather than a threat. When markets dropped sharply during a period of economic uncertainty, we rebalanced, selling fixed income to buy equities at a discount. As markets recovered, those moves contributed meaningfully to their overall growth. Five years in, their investable assets have grown from $1.1 million to $2.5 million. Beyond that, Rob and Christie have referred five family members to Five Pine, a reflection of the trust that developed alongside their plan. In Christie's own words: "Ben and Jeremy are honest, approachable, and very professional. They take great pride in getting to know clients and listening to each individual's goals. Honestly, they are the best fiduciaries I have ever worked with, by far." Your Decumulation Strategy Starts Before You Retire Rob's story is more common than most people realize. Disciplined savers often arrive at retirement without a spending plan, a tax strategy, or a portfolio suited to this new phase of life. If you're within five to ten years of retirement (or already there), it's worth asking whether your current advisor is doing comprehensive planning, including tax planning for retirement, or simply managing your investments. Over the course of a long retirement, that distinction can determine whether or not you’re equipped to tackle retirement with confidence. We'd love to help you find your number. Email us at info@fivepinewealth.com or call 877.333.1015. Let's talk.* Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) Q: When should I start building a decumulation strategy? A: Ideally, five to ten years before you plan to retire. That window gives you time to gradually reposition your portfolio, identify potential tax issues before they become expensive, and stress-test your spending assumptions while you still have income coming in. Q: What role does Social Security timing play in a decumulation plan? A: Claiming Social Security early locks in a permanently reduced benefit, while waiting until 70 can increase your monthly payout substantially. The right timing depends on your health, other income sources, and whether a spouse will eventually depend on your benefit as a survivor. Coordinating with your Roth conversion strategy is also worthwhile, since both affect your taxable income. Q: What happens to my decumulation plan if the market drops early in retirement? A: This is often called the sequence of returns risk. A significant market decline in the first few years of retirement can have a lasting impact on a portfolio, because you're withdrawing funds at lower values. A well-designed decumulation strategy accounts for this by maintaining a portion of the portfolio in less volatile assets, so you're not forced to sell equities at a discount to cover living expenses during a downturn. *Names have been changed to protect client privacy*