Get to Know Your Founding Advisors at Five Pine Wealth Management

admin • March 20, 2023

By the Five Pine Wealth Management Team

Jeremy Morris

Since 2017, the team at Five Pine Wealth Management has had the great pleasure of serving a diverse group of clients, and we have loved every minute of it. To celebrate six years in business, we’d like to share our stories with you in the hope that you will get to know us even better than you already do. 

As you might know, cofounders Ben and Jeremy met in 2016. After working with a large financial advisory team for a couple of years, they decided they wanted to focus on being fee-only fiduciaries and holistic financial planners. So they branched into the world of entrepreneurship and began Five Pine Wealth Management. Ever since, they’ve worked hard to develop a relationship-centric culture for themselves, their team, and their clients so that going to work every day no longer feels like work at all.

Get to Know Jeremy

In 1998, Jeremy escaped the dry, hot Mojave Desert to pursue an education in Managerial Economics at Oregon State University. While there, he also earned an MBA in Wealth Management. And once he got a taste of the green, cool Pacific Northwest, Jeremy knew he wasn’t returning to the sunny Southwest. After graduation, he settled in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho where he later met Ben Holzhauser. 

An avid fisherman, Jeremy spends many a weekend fishing the lakes and rivers of Northern Idaho. He also enjoys dual sport motorcycle riding in the woods, spending time with his friends and family, and reading every book about Bitcoin he can get his hands on. A few of his favorites include The Bitcoin Standard by Saifedean Ammous and Inventing Bitcoin by Yan Pritzker.

Why Jeremy Became a Financial Advisor 

Jeremy is a natural-born problem-solver, and no career field offers more genuine problems that need solving than financial services. As a financial advisor, Jeremy gets to use his problem-solving skills every day to help his clients tackle challenges that have a real impact on the quality of life they get to enjoy in the present and the future. 

Jeremy knew he didn’t want a job with a checklist or a routine set of tasks, and he loves that no client situation is quite like another. Helping people learn to make better financial decisions and meet their financial goals provides him with the utmost satisfaction. 

Jeremy respects that his input can have a long-lasting, deeply meaningful impact on the lives of his clients. He knows how important it is that they get the financial planning aspect “right” if they’re to live the lives they want. And he is humbled by the fact that his guidance may have generational effects on his clients and their heirs for decades to come.

On a personal level, being a financial advisor gives Jeremy the autonomy he desires in a career. He loves being able to set his own schedule and having the freedom to choose who he works with—and he believes he gets to work with the best people in the world! His clients become friends, so his job doesn’t seem like work to him at all.

Jeremy’s Wealth Management Specialties

Jeremy specializes in holistic financial planning and wealth management, including insurance planning, estate planning, retirement planning, and investment management. He believes that each area is a critical component of a solid financial foundation.

Jeremy considers himself a Bitcoin maximalist (only Bitcoin, not cryptocurrency as a whole) and understands the space more than most financial advisors. While he doesn’t make purchase recommendations, Jeremy educates his clients on ways to include Bitcoin in their financial and estate planning. He believes that Bitcoin can be used to leave heirs a lasting legacy in the face of inflation and currency debasement.

Get to Know Ben

Before Ben and his beautiful wife, Rachael, had their daughter Evelyn in the summer of 2022, Ben enjoyed traveling across the US (he has been to 47 states) as well as worldwide (more than 20 countries). He comes from a long line of Idahoans: Ben’s grandparents and great-grandparents lived near Priest River, Idaho going back to the 1960s. Today Ben, Rachael, and Evelyn call Coeur d’Alene home.

After earning his Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of California in Riverside, Ben pursued a Master of Science degree from the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. Once he finished grad school, Ben worked in compliance and national accounts for a broker-dealer and various investment products. 

Ben is an avid reader and is passionate about various eras of world history. As a student at the University of Edinburgh, he founded the Historical Society for the Second World War. When Ben is not working, he enjoys early morning runs, spending time with his wife and daughter, bowling with a Sunday night league, working on his 100-year-old home, and volunteering for various organizations. 

In the past five years, Ben has been President of the Coeur d’Alene Evening Rotary, Treasurer (x3) of Coeur d’Alene Evening Rotary, Head Trustee of Coeur d’Alene Eagles, President of Early Birds Bowling League, and winner of the “Kootenai County Top 30 Under 40” award. 

Why Ben became a financial advisor

Ben has a diverse background in financial services and spent 12 years working in various real estate investing and private equity roles. While this experience was highly educational, too often Ben would meet with financial advisors that sold expensive products to their clients while neglecting to understand their client’s goals behind investing. 

He commonly experienced financial representatives acting like sales agents, rather than taking the time to understand their clients’ needs and help them achieve their financial goals while taking into consideration fees, tax planning, and more.

Seeing how so many advisors ran their practice, Ben realized that he could make a greater impact by helping individuals, families, and businesses achieve their financial goals as a fiduciary and fee-only financial planner.

As a holistic financial planner, Ben gets to do more of what he loves, which is focusing on the relationship-centric aspects of wealth management. He has a high regard for his clients’ unique visions and enjoys helping them find creative solutions to their problems over the course of a long-term professional relationship. 

Ben’s wealth management specialties

Holistic financial planning allows Ben to pursue two of his interests alongside one another: living a healthy lifestyle and solving the puzzles of personal finance. He approaches wealth management from a whole life perspective to go beyond the numbers. 

Rather than setting arbitrary financial goals, Ben helps his clients consider their vision for the future alongside their health and lifestyle choices to craft a truly custom financial plan. From there, they consider how long a nest egg will need to last based on how active and healthy an individual client might be, as many people are finding they will be retired for 30+ years. 

Ben also helps his clients visualize how they will spend their time in retirement, as the emotional transition can oftentimes be just as challenging—if not more so—than the financial transition. As his clients prepare to go from working full-time to full-time leisure, he encourages them to think of low-cost yet enjoyable day-to-day activities that will allow more flexibility for higher-cost, more infrequent pleasures like traveling. 

Ben and Jeremy’s Shared Philosophies

Ben and Jeremy both believe strongly in the value of education. One of their favorite parts of their job is educating clients about personal finance choices and strategies they’d never before considered. In Jeremy’s words, watching clients have that ‘aha’ moment is one of the most rewarding parts of being a financial advisor. 

Since Ben and Jeremy are younger than many advisors, they’re more knowledgeable in modern areas of personal finance that are highly relevant to today’s wealth management strategies, such as incorporating Bitcoin and other alternative assets into diversified portfolios. 

Ben and Jeremy are often opposed to using actively managed and potentially tax-inefficient mutual funds. Rather, they advocate passive investing strategies and believe in using low-cost ETFs, mutual funds, and indexing strategies to help their clients keep more of their money.

At their core, Jeremy and Ben believe that every client presents a unique set of challenges and opportunities depending on their life situation, goals, and time horizon. And as wealth strategists who truly create value for their clients, they know there are no cookie-cutter approaches to financial planning. 

Instead, they believe that high-caliber wealth strategists need to develop long-term, meaningful relationships with their clients. They prioritize regular communication to build trust and become a dependable resource for the individuals, families, and business owners they work with.

Join the Family at Five Pine Wealth Management

At Five Pine Wealth Management , we pride ourselves on the fiduciary care we show our clients, as well as the personal relationships we’ve developed with every family we work with. If you have friends or family that you think would benefit from working with us, we would be honored to connect with them. Have them give us a call at 877.333.1015, email us at info@fivepinewealth.com , or visit our website to learn more about what it’s like to work with us. 

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Key Takeaways Your 457 should work alongside your pension to support your overall retirement income plan. Many 457 plans are set on autopilot, but your investments shouldn’t stay that way as you near retirement. Understanding what you're invested in helps you make better decisions when markets move. Turning 50 is your signal to review your 457 more closely so you can check your contributions, risk level, and how it fits with your pension before retirement gets too close. Like many first responders in Washington and Idaho, you probably have a pretty solid grasp of your "Plan A." Between the WA LEOFF Plan 2 or ID PERSI, you’ve spent your career earning a guaranteed monthly pension. It’s the foundation of your retirement — the steady paycheck that arrives regardless of what the stock market does. But then there’s that "other" account. The one you’ve been tucking money into every pay period through deferred compensation. In Washington, it’s usually the Washington State Deferred Compensation Program (WSDCP); in Idaho, it’s often the State of Idaho 457(b) Plan. When we sit down with firefighters and police officers who are within 10 years of their "end of watch" date, they usually know two things about this account: how much is in it and that they’re glad they started it. But when we ask, 'What is that money actually doing?' — that question usually gets a pause. If you’re 50 or older, it’s time to move past the "set it and forget it" mentality. Let’s take a look at how your 457 works and how to make sure it’s working for you. 457 Plan Investment Options  Unlike your pension, which is managed by the state, your 457 is a “defined contribution” plan. That means the outcome depends entirely on how much you put in and how those funds are invested. A 457 plan is just a container. Think of it like a toolbox. What matters is what’s inside the box. Your account isn’t sitting in cash (at least it shouldn’t be). It’s invested in a mix of underlying funds, usually including: Stock funds (equities): These are your growth engines. They tend to go up over time, but they can be volatile. These could be U.S. stock funds or international funds. Bond funds (fixed income): These provide stability and income, but with historically reduced long-term returns. Stable value or cash equivalents: Lower risk, but also lower growth. Most public service 457 plans in the Northwest offer a menu of these options. Some people choose to build their own mix, while others choose a single “all-in-one” fund and let it do the work. This brings us to the most common choice we see… What is a Target-Date Fund? A Target-Date Fund (TDF) is designed to be a one-stop shop. The “date” in the name is the year the fund assumes you will retire. If you plan to hang up the uniform in 2030, you’d likely be in a 2030 fund. A TDF automatically shifts its risk level as you get closer to that date. This is called the glide path . When you are 20 years away from retirement, the fund is aggressive. It buys mostly stocks because you have time to recover from market crashes. As you get closer to the target year, the fund manager automatically “glides” the investments away from risky stocks and into “safer” bonds and cash. TDFs are built for the “average” American worker who relies solely on Social Security and a 401(k), but you aren’t the average worker. You have a LEOFF or PERSI pension. Because your pension acts like a “super bond” (stable, guaranteed income), being too conservative in your 457 might hinder your growth. Conversely, if you’re planning to retire at 53 (common for LEOFF 2) but your fund is target age 65, you might be taking way more risk than you realize. It’s also important to note that two funds with the same year, for example, 2035, can have very different levels of risk depending on the provider. One may still hold 60% in stocks near retirement, while another might be closer to 40%. How Risk Changes as Retirement Approaches In your 20s, 30s, and even early 40s, “risk” is your friend. Risk is what grows a $50,000 account into a $500,000 account. However, as you approach the age of 50, the definition of risk changes. That’s because you’re entering what we call the “retirement red zone,” roughly five years before and five years after your retirement date. This is when: Your portfolio is at its largest You have less time to recover from downturns You may soon rely on the money for income We look at two specific types of risk for our clients: Sequence of Returns Risk: The risk that a market crash occurs just as you start taking withdrawals. If the market drops 20% the year you retire, and you start pulling money out to travel or pay off the mortgage, your account may never recover. Inflation Risk: If you get scared and move everything into the “Fixed Account” or “Stable Value Fund,” you might not lose money, but you’ll lose purchasing power. 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With a Roth, you pay the tax today, but the money grows and comes out tax-free. For high-earners who expect their pension to keep them in a higher tax bracket during retirement, having a “tax-free” bucket of money can be helpful. Coordinate With Your Pension If your LEOFF or PERSI pension covers 70% of your needed income, your 457 can afford to be a bit more aggressive in fighting inflation. If you plan to use your 457 to bridge the gap until you collect Social Security, that money needs to be protected differently. Let’s Take a Look Together At Five Pine Wealth Management, we work with first responders in Washington and Idaho who are approaching retirement and want clarity around their financial picture. We understand how LEOFF Plan 2 and PERSI fit into the bigger picture, and how your 457 can support the retirement you’ve worked hard to build. If you’d like help understanding what you’re invested in, we’d be happy to take a look with you. You can email or call us at 877.333.1015 to schedule. We’d welcome the conversation. You’ve spent your career looking out for the community; let us help you look out for your future. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) Q: Is a Target-Date Fund enough for my 457 plan? A: For many people, it is, but as you get closer to retirement, it’s important to review whether the fund’s risk level matches your timeline and overall financial picture. Q: Is there a penalty for taking money out before age 59½? A: No. Unlike a 401(k), the 457 plan has no 10% early withdrawal penalty if you leave your employer, making it an ideal tool for first responders retiring in their early 50s. Q: Should I choose a Target-Date Fund or build my own portfolio in a 457? A: Target-date funds offer simplicity, but building your own portfolio allows for more customization. If you have a pension that already provides a stable income, building your own could be a good option.
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Key Takeaways Taking early withdrawals from your 457 while letting your IRA grow can help you build a more balanced retirement plan. First responders with LEOFF or PERSI pensions can use their 457 plan as a bridge between retirement and traditional retirement account access. Rolling your 457 into an IRA at retirement removes penalty-free access to funds before age 59½. Many first responders in Washington and Idaho can realistically retire early. Thanks to pensions like WA LEOFF Plan 2 or ID PERSI, disciplined savings, and a long career of service, retiring at 55 is common. If you've been putting money into a 457 deferred compensation plan, you may be sitting on a sizable balance by the time you retire. As retirement approaches, you may be wondering: “What do I do with my 457 deferred compensation plan?” Many people unintentionally make a costly mistake. They roll their entire 457 balance into an IRA the moment they retire, thinking it's the right move. It might seem logical to combine accounts and keep things simple by moving everything into one IRA. However, this move eliminates a key advantage of a 457 plan: you lose penalty-free access to your money before age 59½. Let’s look at how this works and how you can set up your retirement accounts to stay flexible in your early retirement years. Early Retirement at 55: The Income Gap Problem Whether you're covered by LEOFF Plan 2 or PERSI, retiring around age 55 is entirely realistic. LEOFF Plan 2 members can retire with a full benefit at age 53 (or as early as 50 with 20 years of service and a reduced benefit). Idaho PERSI first responders can retire as early as 50 under the Rule of 80. The years between ages 55 and 59½ are a unique financial period. Your pension might cover a portion of your income needs, but often not everything. Social Security usually starts much later, and if most of your retirement savings are in IRAs, taking out money early can trigger penalties. This is where your 457 plan can be especially helpful. Unlike most retirement accounts, 457 plans let you take out money without the 10% early withdrawal penalty once you separate from service. This rule gives you a helpful bridge between retiring and the time when traditional retirement accounts become easier to access. You lose this benefit if you move your money into an IRA too soon. If your pension doesn't cover all your needs and you rolled everything into an IRA, you might face penalties or be unable to access your money. This early-retirement gap is exactly what good 457 planning can help you avoid. 457 Plan Withdrawal Rules Once you separate from service, whether you quit, get laid off, or retire, you can start taking 457 withdrawals from your 457 plan without a 10% penalty, no matter your age. Whether you're 55, 45, or even 35, the penalty doesn't apply. If you move money from your 401(k) or another account into your 457 and then withdraw it, that money loses the 457's penalty-free status. It’s now treated like IRA money and is subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty. Only the original 457 money stays penalty-free. You will still owe ordinary income taxes on every withdrawal from a traditional 457, just like an IRA. The key difference is that you don’t have to pay the extra 10% penalty, which can save you thousands of dollars. Should I Roll My 457 Into an IRA? Now that you know the withdrawal rules, you might be asking yourself, “Should I roll my 457 into an IRA?” This is an important question, and the answer is: it depends. Usually, moving everything at once isn’t the best idea. Many people roll their entire 457 into an IRA at retirement because it’s often suggested as a way to “consolidate” and “simplify.” While there are legitimate reasons to roll some money into an IRA, doing it all at once at age 55 means you lose your penalty-free income bridge. A few of the advantages of rolling some money into an IRA are: More investment options Estate planning flexibility Roth conversion strategies A better strategy for most first responders retiring around 55 is to split your 457 balance into two parts, or “buckets,” each with its own role in your retirement plan: Bucket 1: Use your 457 account for early-retirement cash flow. This is the money you'll live on from age 55 to 59½ (or whenever your pension plus other income is sufficient). The 457 allows penalty-free withdrawals at any time, so you control both the amount and timing of distributions. This bucket bridges the gap until your other income starts coming in. Bucket 2: Roll into an IRA for long-term growth. Once you've determined how much you need for the early years, the rest can be rolled into a traditional IRA. The IRA bucket offers more investment choices and greater flexibility for estate planning or Roth conversion. Here’s an example: Jason is a firefighter retiring at 55 from Washington with $300,000 in his 457. His LEOFF Plan 2 pension covers most of his expenses but leaves a $1,500 per month gap. Instead of rolling everything to an IRA, he keeps $90,000 in the 457, which covers about five years of that gap at $1,500/month, and rolls the remaining $210,000 into a traditional IRA. The $90,000 stays accessible, penalty-free, and the $210,000 continues to grow. By the time he turns 59½, the IRA restrictions are gone, and he hasn't paid any unnecessary penalties. Deferred Compensation Rollover: What You Need to Know If you decide to roll part of your 457 into an IRA, the process is simple. You can move your 457 into another retirement account, like a traditional IRA, Roth IRA, 401(k), 403(b), or another 457 plan. There are a few things to keep in mind: Direct rollover is the best option. Have your 457 plan send the money straight to your IRA provider. If you get the check yourself, you have 60 days to put it into your IRA, and your employer will withhold 20% for taxes. If you miss the 60-day deadline, it will be treated as a taxable withdrawal. Roth conversions are possible, but watch the tax hit. You can convert your 457 to a Roth IRA, but be careful about taxes. If you do this soon after retiring, your income might be lower, which could make it a good time for a Roth conversion. Just make sure not to convert everything at once without checking the tax impact. Putting IRA money back into your 457 is usually not a good idea. Once IRA or other retirement plan money goes into your 457, it loses the penalty-free withdrawal benefit. Only do this if you have a very specific reason. Washington's DCP and Idaho's PERSI Choice 401(k) have their own rules. Washington state's Deferred Compensation Program (DCP) is administered by the Department of Retirement Systems (DRS). Idaho first responders may have the PERSI Choice 401(k) as well as other 457 plans. Be sure you know which accounts you're dealing with before starting any rollovers. Here are two helpful resources: Washington DRS (DCP information) Idaho PERSI A Note on Taxes and Required Minimum Distributions Even if you don’t pay a penalty, you still need to think about taxes. Every dollar you take from a traditional 457 counts as regular income for that year. If you're not careful with how much you withdraw, you could end up in a higher tax bracket, especially if your pension income is already high. This is one reason the bucket approach is helpful: you can control how much you withdraw from your 457 each year and keep your taxable income in a comfortable range. It’s also important to know that required minimum distributions from traditional 457 accounts begin at age 73 or 75, depending on when you were born. Beginning in 2024, Roth 457(b) accounts in governmental plans became exempt from RMDs under the SECURE 2.0 Act. This is another reason to think about whether Roth contributions or conversions are right for you. Talk With Us Before Rolling Your 457 The 457 plan is a powerful tool, and rolling it into an IRA without careful thought means losing the feature that makes it so valuable for retirees. At Five Pine Wealth Management, we help many first responders and public employees in Washington and Idaho. We know the ins and outs of WA LEOFF Plan 2, Idaho PERSI, deferred compensation plans, and the unique challenges of retiring earlier than most people. If you're within 10 years of retirement, or if you're already retired and want to make sure your money is set up the right way, we'd be happy to help. Call us at 877.333.1015 or email info@fivepinewealth.com. Before making a decision about your 457 rollover, let’s make sure your retirement accounts are working together as they should be. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) Q: Does a 457 rollover to an IRA count as a taxable event? A: A direct rollover from a traditional 457 to a traditional IRA is not taxable. Q: Can I take money out of my 457 while I'm still working? A: Generally, no. 457 plans don't allow withdrawals while you're still employed, except for very limited exceptions (such as an unforeseeable emergency). The penalty-free access kicks in once you separate from service. Q: What happens to my 457 if I roll it into an IRA and then need money before age 59½?  A: You lose the 457's penalty-free protection. If you roll 457 funds into a traditional IRA, you lose the flexibility of penalty-free early withdrawals and become subject to a 10% early withdrawal penalty