Curious About a Roth Conversion Strategy? When It Actually Makes Sense (Or Not)

April 17, 2025

“Should I convert my traditional IRA or 401(k) to a Roth?”


If you’ve asked yourself this question lately, you’re in good company. Perhaps you’re a high-earner who makes too much to contribute directly to a Roth IRA but wants access to tax-free growth. Or maybe you’re concerned about future tax rates and want to ensure more tax-free income in retirement.


With market volatility and changing tax laws on the horizon, many of our clients are wondering if a Roth conversion could be a smart money move to save on taxes and provide more flexibility down the road.


While we think Roth conversions are a great strategy, they don’t make sense for everyone. Let’s break down when Roth conversions actually make sense — and when they don’t — in plain English.


Back to Basics: What is a Roth IRA?


Before we dive into strategy, let’s recap the differences between a Roth retirement account and a traditional one.


Traditional retirement accounts, such as a traditional IRA or 401(k), provide you with a tax deduction when you contribute. You save on taxes now, but you’ll pay taxes on that money in the future when you withdraw it as income in retirement.


A Roth IRA allows you to contribute money that you’ve already paid income taxes on. You don’t enjoy savings this year, but the interest you earn on that money grows tax-free, and the withdrawals are 100% tax-free in retirement once you meet certain eligibility requirements. 


For many people, these lifetime tax savings are significantly greater, which is why a Roth conversion is such an intriguing strategy.


What Is a Roth Conversion?


Imagine you’ve been making retirement contributions to a traditional 401(k) for the past 25 years. You’ve enjoyed income tax deductions each year as you squirrel away money for your future.


But as you’re scrolling through your newsfeed one night after dinner, you come across an article about the unexpected tax bills many retirees are faced with in retirement, significantly eating into their retirement income. The article suggests making contributions to a Roth account instead, in order to avoid this scenario in the future.


But you’ve already been making contributions to a traditional account for 25 years. 


Have you missed out?


Not necessarily. With a Roth conversion, you can move money from another retirement account, such as a Traditional IRA or 401(k), into a Roth IRA. Essentially, a Roth conversion allows you to “pre-pay” taxes so your future self won’t have to. For many people, this can be a smart move.


But there are caveats: Convert too much at once, and you might push yourself into a higher tax bracket this year. Convert too little over time, and you might miss opportunities to lower your lifetime tax bill. The challenge lies in finding the right balance.


When Roth Conversions Make Sense


In general, Roth conversions can make sense for individuals in the following circumstances:


1. You’re a High Earner

For 2025, direct Roth IRA contributions are phased out for single filers with incomes between $150,000-$165,000 and for joint files with incomes between $236,00-$246,000. If your income exceeds these thresholds, you can’t contribute directly to a Roth IRA.


However, Roth conversions have no income limits. This creates a powerful opportunity for high-income earners to still enjoy tax-free growth in retirement. By making non-deductible contributions to a traditional IRA (which has no income limits) and then converting those funds to a Roth IRA — often called a “backdoor Roth” — you can effectively circumvent the income restrictions.


2. You’re in a “Tax Valley”

You may be in a “tax valley” if you’re currently experiencing a period where your income is lower than you expect in the future. For example, you may be early in your career, taking a sabbatical from work, or starting a business. These can all be opportune years to make a Roth conversion.


New retirees may also find themselves in a temporary “tax valley.” For example, if you’re recently retired but haven’t yet started collecting Social Security or required minimum distributions (RMDs), this window from your early 60s to 70s could be a golden opportunity to convert portions of your traditional retirement savings into a Roth.


By strategically moving money over a few years, you can fill up the lower tax brackets and reduce your future RMDs, which might otherwise push you into a higher bracket later. This can also help reduce the tax burden on your Social Security benefits once you begin collecting them.


3. You Have a Long Time Horizon 

Younger investors in their 30s and 40s may benefit from a Roth conversion if they have decades for that money to grow tax-free. 


For example, $100,000 converted to a Roth at age 35 could potentially grow to over $1 million by retirement age — all of which could be withdrawn tax-free. That same conversion done at age 60 might only have time to grow to $140,000-$150,000 before withdrawals begin.


4. You Want to Leave a Tax-Free Legacy

Roth IRAs are powerful estate planning tools. Your spouse can treat an inherited Roth IRA as their own, allowing the assets to continue growing tax-free without requiring distributions during their lifetime, creating the potential for decades of additional tax-free growth.


Kids or grandkids who inherit a Roth IRA will also enjoy a tax-free inheritance, at least for a time. In contrast, inheriting a traditional IRA means your beneficiaries would pay taxes on every dollar they withdraw — potentially during their peak earning years when they’re in a higher tax bracket.


When Roth Conversions Don’t Make Sense


Of course, just because you can convert doesn’t mean you should. Here are a few situations when a Roth conversion strategy might not work in your favor:


1. You’re Currently in a High Tax Bracket

If you’re currently in your peak earning years and already paying taxes in the 35% or 37% federal tax brackets, converting could mean handing over a substantial portion of your retirement savings to the IRS.


For example, a $100,000 conversion for someone in the 35% federal tax bracket could trigger an additional tax bill of $35,000 or more. If you expect to be in a lower bracket during retirement — say 22% or 24% — waiting to pay taxes then might be more advantageous.


2. You Don’t Have Cash to Pay the Taxes

The most efficient Roth conversion strategy requires having cash outside your retirement accounts to pay the resulting tax bill. Here’s why this matters:


If you have to withdraw extra money from your traditional IRA to cover the taxes on the conversion, you’re reducing your future growth potential. For instance, if you want to convert $50,000 and are in the 24% tax bracket, you may need an additional $12,000 for taxes. If you take that $12,000 from your IRA too, you’d pay taxes on that withdrawal as well, creating a compounding tax problem. 


Even worse, if you’re under age 59½, you could face a 10% early withdrawal penalty on any funds used to pay the taxes, further reducing the effectiveness of your conversion. 


3. You’ll Need the Money Soon

In general, Roth IRAs have a five-year rule that states you must wait five years from the beginning of the tax year of your first contribution to make a withdrawal of the earnings. (You can withdraw contributions, not earnings, tax-free and penalty-free at any time.)


For Roth conversions, however, a new five-year rule starts separately for each conversion. While there are exemptions to this penalty, such as disability and turning age 59½, it’s worth considering if you plan to use the converted funds in the near future.         


Enter: The Roth Conversion Ladder


One strategy we often recommend to clients who want to implement a Roth conversion is the Roth conversion ladder. This approach helps work around the five-year rule while building a tax-efficient income stream, especially for those planning an early retirement. 


Here’s how it works:


Year 1: You convert a portion of your traditional IRA to a Roth (let’s say $30,000).

Year 2: You convert another $30,000.

Year 3: You convert another $30,000.

Year 4: You convert another $30,000.

Year 5: You guessed it — you convert another $30,000.

Year 6: Now the Year 1 conversion is available for withdrawal without penalties.

Each following year: A new “rung” of the ladder becomes accessible while you continue adding new conversions at the top.


Over time, you build a steady stream of tax-free income in retirement that you can predictably access. This strategy is particularly valuable for early retirees who need income before the traditional retirement age or for anyone looking to minimize RMDs down the road.


For example, a couple retiring at 55 might build a conversion ladder to provide $30,000 of annual tax-free income starting at age 60, giving them a bridge until they begin taking Social Security benefits at age 67. Meanwhile, they can use other savings for the first five years of retirement while the initial conversions “season.”


The ladder approach also allows you greater flexibility to manage your tax bracket each year by controlling exactly how much you convert, rather than converting a large sum all at once and potentially pushing yourself into a higher tax bracket.


Making Your Roth Conversion Decision


As you’ve seen, Roth conversions are far from a one-size-fits-all strategy. The right approach depends on your unique financial situation, current and future tax bracket, retirement timeline, and long-term goals.


When considering a Roth conversion, remember that it’s not just about the math. Many of our clients initially hesitate at the thought of writing a big check to the IRS today, even when they know the long-term benefits. That emotional response is completely normal.


This is where thoughtful financial planning comes in. At Five Pine Wealth Management, we help you look beyond the immediate tax bill to see how today’s decisions impact your retirement income, Social Security strategy, and even your legacy plans. Sometimes, what feels uncomfortable at the moment creates the greatest long-term benefit for you and your family.


So, should you do a Roth conversion? The answer depends on:



  • Your current and projected future tax brackets
  • Whether you’re above income limits for direct Roth contributions
  • Your retirement timeline
  • Whether you have cash available to pay the conversion taxes
  • Your estate and legacy goals
  • Your comfort with paying taxes now versus later


A Roth conversion can be either a powerful wealth-building tool or an unnecessary tax expense. The difference comes down to proper planning and timing.


The Next Step


If you’re wondering whether a Roth conversion makes sense for your situation, let’s talk. Our fiduciary advisors will help you evaluate your options and develop a conversion strategy that aligns with your comprehensive financial plan.


We’ll walk through different scenarios, look at the numbers together, and help you feel confident in your decision  — whether that means converting, waiting, or taking a gradual approach with a conversion ladder.


Ready to explore whether a Roth conversion is right for you? Give us a call at 877.333.1015 or send us an email at info@fivepinewealth.com to schedule a conversation.

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401(k) Millionaire: Proven Strategies to Reach 7 Figures in Your Retirement Account

October 17, 2025
Key Takeaways Maxing out your employer match provides an immediate 50-100% return and is the easiest way to accelerate your 401(k) growth. Reaching $1 million in your 401(k) depends more on consistent contributions over time than on being the highest earner or picking winning investments. High earners can potentially contribute up to $70,000 annually through a mega backdoor Roth conversion if their employer plan allows after-tax contributions. Hitting seven figures in your 401(k) might sound like a pipe dream, but it's more achievable than you think. With the right 401(k) investment strategies and a disciplined approach, becoming a 401(k) millionaire is within reach for many mid-career professionals. Let's walk through exactly how you can get there. The Math Behind Becoming a 401(k) Millionaire Before we discuss strategies, let's look at the numbers. Understanding the math helps you see that reaching $1 million isn't about getting lucky — it's about time, consistency, and thoughtful planning. Starting Age Annual Contribution Balance at 65* 30 $15,000 $1.5 million 30 $20,000 $2 million 40 $25,000 $1.3 million *Assumes 7% average annual return Time matters, but it's never too late to build substantial wealth if you're willing to prioritize your retirement savings. 7 Steps to Build Your 401(k) to Seven Figures Now that you understand the math, let's break down the specific strategies that will get you there. Step 1: Max Out Your Employer Match (The Easiest Money You'll Ever Make) If your employer offers a 401(k) match, contributing enough to capture it fully is the absolute first step: it’s free money that provides an immediate 50-100% return on your investment. Let's say your employer matches 50% of your contributions up to 6% of your salary. If you earn $150,000 and contribute $9,000 (6% of your salary), your employer adds $4,500. That's a guaranteed 50% return before your money even hits the market. Not taking full advantage of an employer match is like turning down a raise. Make sure you're contributing at least enough to capture every dollar your employer offers. Step 2: Gradually Increase Your Contribution Rate Once you've secured your employer match, the next step is increasing your personal contribution rate over time. For 2025, the 401(k) contribution limit is $23,500 (or $31,000 if you're 50 or older with catch-up contributions). Here's a practical approach: Every time you get a raise or bonus, direct at least half toward your 401(k). If you get a 4% raise, bump your contribution by 2%. Many plans now offer automatic annual increases. If yours does, set it to increase your contribution by 1-2% annually until you hit the maximum. You'll barely notice the change, but your future self will thank you. Step 3: Master Tax-Advantaged Retirement Accounts Through Strategic Contributions Traditional 401(k) contributions reduce your taxable income now, which is ideal if you're in a high tax bracket today. Roth 401(k) contributions don't reduce current taxes, but withdrawals in retirement are tax-free — valuable if you're earlier in your career or expect a higher income later. A hybrid approach works for many of our clients. Step 4: Optimize Your 401(k) Investment Strategies Your contribution rate matters, but so does what you're investing in. We regularly see clients who contribute aggressively but choose overly conservative investments that don't provide enough growth. Keep costs low . Target-date funds and index funds typically offer the lowest expense ratios. Every 0.5% in fees you avoid can add tens of thousands to your retirement balance over 30 years. Rebalance annually . Market movements throw your allocation off balance. Set a reminder once a year to review and rebalance your portfolio back to your target allocation. Avoid the temptation to chase performance . Last year's top-performing fund is rarely this year's winner. Stick with broadly diversified, low-cost options. Step 5: Consider a Mega Backdoor Roth Conversion If you're a high earner who's already maxing out regular 401(k) contributions, a mega backdoor Roth conversion can accelerate your retirement savings. Here's how it works: Some employer plans allow after-tax contributions beyond the standard $23,500 limit. The total contribution limit for 2025 (including employer contributions and after-tax contributions) is $70,000 ($77,500 if you're 50+). If your plan permits, you can make after-tax contributions up to that limit, then immediately convert those contributions to a Roth 401(k) or roll them into a Roth IRA. This gives you tax-free growth on substantially more money than the regular contribution limits allow. 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We can analyze your current contributions, recommend optimal allocation strategies, and help you coordinate your employer plan with other retirement accounts. Want to see what your path to seven figures looks like? We help clients build these roadmaps every day. Email us at info@fivepinewealth.com or give us a call at 877.333.1015. Let's talk about your specific situation. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) Q: Should I prioritize maxing out my 401(k) or paying off debt first? A: Start by contributing enough to capture your full employer match — that's an immediate 50-100% return you can't get anywhere else. Beyond that, prioritize high-interest debt (credit cards, personal loans) since those interest rates typically exceed investment returns. Q: Should I stop contributing during market downturns to avoid losses? A: No — continuing to contribute during downturns is actually one of the best strategies for building wealth. When prices are lower, your contributions buy more shares, setting you up for greater gains when the market recovers. Q: I'm 55 with only $300K saved. Is it too late to reach $1 million?  A : While reaching exactly $1 million by 65 might be challenging, you can still build substantial wealth. Maxing out contributions, including catch-up ($31,000/year), could get you to $750K-$850K depending on returns. Disclaimer: This is not tax or investment advice. Individuals should consult with a qualified professional for recommendations appropriate to their specific situation.

Couples Money Management: Why Both Spouses Need to Know Where the Money Is

October 17, 2025
Key Takeaways Both spouses should understand the family’s finances, even if only one manages them, to prevent confusion or stress during life’s unexpected events. Regular money check-ins, shared account access, and attending financial planning meetings together help couples build confidence and clarity. Partnering with a fiduciary advisor ensures both spouses have support, education, and guidance for comprehensive wealth management and long-term peace of mind. Money is one of the most common sources of stress in relationships. Some couples argue about spending habits, while others quietly hand off all financial responsibilities to one spouse and never revisit the arrangement. At first glance, this setup can feel efficient: one partner pays the bills, manages investments, and handles taxes while the other takes care of different responsibilities. However, there is a risk to this method. If something unexpected happens, the spouse who hasn’t been involved in financial decisions can feel completely lost. Even highly capable, intelligent people often tell us they don’t know where accounts are located, how much income is coming in, or what investments they own. When life throws a curveball, like illness, death, or divorce, that lack of knowledge creates unnecessary anxiety during an already difficult time. The solution is not to necessarily make both partners money managers, but to ensure both understand the big picture. Let’s walk through why this matters, what it looks like in practice, and how you can start today. Financial Planning for Couples Effective financial planning for couples goes beyond having the right investment mix or adequate insurance coverage. It requires both spouses to understand the big picture of their financial life, even if only one manages the day-to-day details. This doesn't mean both partners need to become financial experts. 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Many households operate on a “primary manager” system. One person writes the checks, monitors the accounts, and interacts with financial advisors. That’s perfectly fine, as long as the other spouse has visibility. Problems arise when the "non-manager" is completely shut out. Some practical ways to stay connected: Attend meetings together : Whether it’s with your accountant, attorney, or financial planner, both spouses should be present. Hearing the same information firsthand helps prevent misunderstandings. Document everything : Create a simple household financial binder (digital or physical) that includes account numbers, insurance policies, estate documents, and contact info for professionals you work with. Ask questions : No question is too small. If you don’t understand how an investment works or why you own it, speak up. Practice decision-making together: Involve both partners in financial decisions, even small ones. This builds confidence and familiarity with your financial priorities and decision-making process. Fiduciary Financial Planning: The Professional Partnership Advantage Working with a fiduciary financial advisor creates an additional layer of protection for couples navigating financial planning together. Fiduciary advisors are legally required to act in your best interest, providing objective guidance that supports both partners' financial security. A good fiduciary advisor will insist on meeting with both spouses regularly, ensuring that financial strategies are understood and agreed upon by both partners. They can also provide education and support to help less financially-inclined spouses build confidence and understanding over time. This professional relationship becomes especially valuable during transitions. When one spouse dies or becomes incapacitated, having an advisor who knows both partners and understands the family's complete financial picture provides stability during chaos. Comprehensive Wealth Management Comprehensive wealth management goes beyond investments. It covers cash flow, taxes, estate planning, insurance, and long-term care strategies. For couples, it also means creating contingency plans. What happens if one spouse passes away? Will the survivor know how to access accounts? What if the “financial spouse” faces cognitive decline later in life? Will the other partner have the confidence to step in? These are not fun scenarios to imagine, but planning for them is an act of love. Comprehensive wealth management ensures: Estate documents are in place and up to date (wills, powers of attorney, trusts). Beneficiaries are correct on retirement accounts, insurance, and other assets. Tax planning strategies are understood by both spouses, so surprises don’t derail long-term goals. Cash flow is sustainable even if income sources shift (such as after retirement or the loss of a business owner’s salary). When couples approach wealth management together, they reduce the risk of financial upheaval during life’s transitions. When Life Changes Everything: Rebuilding Financial Confidence After Loss Despite the best preparation, losing a spouse creates emotional and financial challenges that feel overwhelming. If you find yourself suddenly managing finances alone, remember that feeling lost is normal and temporary. Start by taking inventory of your immediate needs. Focus on essential expenses and cash flow first. Most other financial decisions can wait while you process your grief and adjust to your new reality. Don't make significant financial changes immediately. Grief affects judgment, and rushed decisions often create problems later. Give yourself time to understand your new situation before making significant moves. Lean on your professional team. This is exactly when having existing relationships with financial advisors, attorneys, and accountants becomes invaluable. They can provide stability and guidance during an unstable time. Consider working with a counselor who specializes in financial therapy or grief counseling. Processing the emotional aspects of sudden financial responsibility is just as important as understanding the technical details. Taking the Next Step Together If you and your spouse have fallen into the habit of letting one person manage all the finances, it’s not too late to shift. Schedule a money talk this week. Write down your accounts. Ask questions. Set a reminder to attend your next financial planning meeting together. At Five Pine Wealth Management , we can guide couples through these conversations. Whether you’re in the wealth accumulation phase, approaching retirement, or already enjoying it, we help both partners feel equally confident in their financial picture. Don't wait until a crisis forces financial literacy upon you. Call (877.333.1015) or send us an email today at info@fivepinewealth.com to schedule a consultation and start building the financial transparency and security your family deserves. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) Q: What if one spouse has no interest in learning about finances? A: Start small and focus on the essentials. Your spouse doesn't need to become a financial expert, but they should know where important documents are located, understand your basic monthly expenses, and know how to contact your financial advisor. Q: How often should we review our finances together if only one person manages them day-to-day? A: Quarterly check-ins work well for most couples. Schedule a regular 30-minute conversation to review your progress toward goals, discuss any major upcoming expenses, and ensure both partners stay informed about your overall financial picture. Q: What's the most important thing for the non-financial spouse to understand first?  A: Cash flow and immediate needs. Know where your checking accounts are, how much you typically spend each month, what bills are on autopay, and how to access emergency funds. This knowledge provides immediate stability if they suddenly need to take over financial management.